• Opening statements: First John, then Jim
• The opening statements present the credibility of evidence as seen by both opponents
• The points made will be too numerous to list. Please listen to the audio for your best coverage
• Q: Why should anyone believe the ‘Single Bullet Theory?’
  • A: John – The abrasion collar, no bullet on the x-rays, placement of Connally and Kennedy in the vehicle
  • A: Jim – Direction of the abrasion collar, a .765 bullet found in Dealy Plaza, the location of the back wound, the angle of the wounds through Kennedy and Connally
  • Counterpoint: John – Why the exit was smaller than the entrance wound? Location of the back wound relative to the throat wound
  • Counterpoint: Jim – Malcom Perry’s evidence; the weapons used will never be known
• Q: Whose portrait of Oswald is correct the Commission’s or Jim Garrison’s?
  • A: Jim – Oswald’s relationship with Ferrie; the Mexican embassy visit; Oswald info at CI/SIG; Oswald’s right-wing ties in Dallas
  • A: John – Evidence that Oswald’s defection is nothing but genuine; Oswald didn’t really know any U-2 secrets; the White Russians took pity on Marina Oswald; the leftist opinions of Oswald in New Orleans
  • Counterpoint: Jim – When Oswald met Ferrie; John Newman paraphrase brought in as evidence; George DeMohrenschildt
  • Counterpoint: John – Countering Jim’s DeMohrenschildt evidence; Oswald only a radar operator, he knew nothing; Oswald just a mixed-up kid
• Q: Did Oswald go to Mexico City, and if so what did he do there?
  • A: John – Marina said he did as a way to get to Cuba; Oswald had a romantic (idealogical) attachment to Castro; pictures of Oswald in Mexico City and letters; phone numbers of an embassy staffer in Oswald’s book
  • A: Jim – The baggage list doesn’t match the evidence; Oswald’s name spelled wrong;n o pictures of Oswald going or coming out of the embassy; the description didn’t match Oswald
  • Counterpoint: John – Oswald’s sightings were real
  • Counterpoint: Jim – Anne Goodpasture knew who the man purported to be Oswald in the photos was
• Q: Are you satisfied with the official autopsy?
  • A: Jim: Which of the 3 autopsies?, Descriptions of all 3
  • A: John – The autopsy was rushed by request of the family; why the autopsy was moved
  • Counterpoint: Jim – Mis-orientation of the autopsy photo; Michael Baden proven dishonest
  • Counterpoint: John – The conclusions reached were the same from all panels
• Q: Do you believe the official x rays and photos are real?
  • A: John – The many ways the x-rays were compared and identified to be JFK
  • A: Jim – To blame this on Hume’s memory lapse is ludicrous; the sinus prints are a red herring
  • Counterpoint: John – Blacked out x-ray not accurate; the set of pictures make sense only as a whole
  • Counterpoint: Jim – The pictures are poorly catalogued, they probably wouldn’t make the evidence list

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• Robert gives some falsehoods that continue to be held up by the “lone nutters”
• The Z film: 2 splices and 6 frames removed (and since replaced by Groden
• There are a number of ‘false’ conspiracies that cloud the issue of the real one
• Groden believes the Z film is the real deal
• It is the single most important piece of evidence
• Every doctor stated the official autopsy photos were faked
• 152 autopsy photos were kept in the National Archives. 15 or 16 remain
• The pictures that remain are different than the original ones
• Robert’s HSCA work
• People that were on the HSCA committee specifically to kill it
• Richard Sprague removed, Robert Tannenbaum removed Blakey installed as HSCA head
• Groden’s new book “JFK: Absolute Proof” will be released soon
• It contains 1000 photos, many brand new
• Another plug for Jim Douglass’s book “JFK And The Unspeakable”
• Groden: The McAdams’s are accessories after the fact
• Bugliosi in his book made 86 references to Groden and 85 are inaccurate
• The huge wound in the rear of Kennedy’s head could only have come from a frontal shot
• Robert’s website is JFK Murder.Com
• His books are available there
• The “black bar” inserted in the Z film… Robert inserted it
• Robert will be found every Friday, Saturday and Sunday barring rain or holiday
• Robert interviewed a woman that was talking to Oswald at the time of the assassination
• This explosive story will be in his upcoming book

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• Tom Rossley website www.whokilledjfk.net
• He originally accepted the official story and was prompted by a dissenter while listening to the radio
• Tom lists 6 felonious charges that could be brought to Government and Media
• He’s always able to counter his critics with facts and his street toughness
• Lone nutters only use the Warren Report charges and conclusions, won’t defer to real evidence
• James Wolcott: Oswald was paid regularly by the CIA! This was suppressed
• The campaign against Jim Garrison by the CIA and the media
• The government tried to completely undermine Garrison’s case before it went to court
• Stone’s JFK was the only movie to ever be totally vilified by the government & media before it was released
• Tom never speculates. He always quotes facts to prevent a loss of credibility
• JFK’s enemies… They were all domestic
• Oswald: A radar operator at 3 different top secret U-2 bases sometimes as the man in charge…
• Had a higher than average IQ… and he had a working knowledge of 5 languages
• A great many points that prove Oswald was an intelligence officer
• Points made about the firing of Dulles, Cabell and Bissell of the CIA
• Until you read the volumes of the Warren Commission Report, you can never be sure who’s lying to you and…
• In 45 years Tom has never heard a Warren Commission supporter ask someone to read the evidence and testimony
• Bullet evidence does not support the official view
• Sprague and Gonzalez booted off the HSCA for being truthful
• Oswald’s ties to the anti-Castro movement while an supposed communist
• Tom: Criminal Gerald Ford should have died in prison
• An exerpt from volume 1 HSCA – The black bar inserted in the Zapruder film
• The several Secret Service impersonators in Dealey Plaza

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• Pat’s a long time JFK researcher
• He has made the video “The Mysterious Death Of Thirty-Five”
• How Pat became involved in the research
• How he gained credibility in the community
• Pat believes the fatal shot came from behind
• The video can be purchased at Amazon …and also at Pat’s Website
• They may be viewed in segments at YouTube
• About inaccuracies in the documentary “Inside The Target Car” and Gary Mack’s role
• No matter what line of evidence you believe, most agree there was a conspiracy
• The official story requies a “certain amount of delusion” to be believed
• …a run-in between John Simkin and John McAdams
• Pat explains blood spatter as it relates to his theory of the JFK assassination
• The current DVD is 90 min and 4 sections. It is an evolving work
• Pat will likely add more sections in the future

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• Debate challenge update
• Mike Palecek’s Letter to Johnny Carson

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